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Why Research Matters for Relational Healing: with Dr. Jae Sevelius, Senior Research SpecialistDr. Jae Sevelius joins host Sarah Melissa Oswald for a deeply insightful conversation about the future of relational healing. As the Senior Research Strategist at Relational Life Foundation, Jae is leading groundbreaking research to establish Relational Life Therapy (RLT) as an evidence-based, widely accessible modality. Together they discuss why research matters for the future of RLT, how it can shape graduate training programs, and what makes this model so transformative for therapists and clients alike.
Jae also shares how their decades of work at Columbia University and with LGBTQ+ and trans communities have shaped their understanding of relationships as both a source of trauma and a pathway to healing—and how this understanding connects to their exploration of psychedelic-assisted therapy. This episode shines a light on the critical role of research, community, and compassion in building a more relational world. Available October 17, 2025: Spotify Amazon Music Apple Music Youtube Substack iHeartRadio |
“Relational Life Therapy gives clinicians permission to bring their full selves into the room, to speak the truth with love—and that’s why it works.”
-Dr. Jae Sevelius
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